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Welcome to the Fourth episode of The Cybrary Battle Royale Podcast Series, led by Atlantic Data Forensics CEO Brian Dykstra. Speaking with Brian is, Daniel Clemons, Founder of Shadow Dragon, Jon Brickey the Cybersecurity Evangelist and Senior VP of Mastercard, and Ron Gula the President and Co-Founder of Gula Tech Adventures. Brian leads this All-Star live discussion recorded during an event at RSA about Investing and ROI on a conference floor, and how building relationships and niche connections are more important.