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January 1, 2016
Kali Linux Or Ubuntu For Hacking?
January 1, 2016
January 1, 2016
I here that Lunix kali is normally used by hackers but here they taught us to install Lunix Ubantu . What should I do now ? Is Ubantu work as same as Kali ? Regards Anshuman Kali and Ubuntu both are "children" of Debian, so mostly they are the same. The biggest difference between Ubuntu and Kali is default Desktop environment and software already installed. Ubuntu uses Unity and have software needed for daily tasks (text editors, spreadsheet editor, audio/video player etc., etc.) while Kali uses Gnome (?) and Kali is designed for security specialists, and there are a lot of pentesting, forencing ant other tools for "hackers". IMHO for beginner it's better to use Ubuntu, than Kali. P.s. sorry for my English... Alchazar has it right. They are both Debian based, so for the purposes of the course(Linux Administration) they should work about the same. Ubuntu is more common and is frequently used as a regular day-to-day distro. Kali comes preloaded with a bunch of tools that is you wanted you could install in Ubuntu, but they are not necessary to understand what you need to for Linux+. I suggest Ubuntu if you are newer to Linux and then move to Kali when you are focusing more on security. I personally use Fedora which is RPM based. I suggest making a virtual machine of that as well so that you can practice on both Debian and RPM machines because you need to know both for the exam. Use **Ubuntu first** to learn "regular Linux". Use **Kali later** to learn "hacker Linux" (*but without becoming a criminal*). For beginners better use Ubuntu than Kali Linux Kali comes with lots of pre-installed tools. So you better go with Kali. First of all as a beginner practice all what you have learned in Ubuntu later on you can go for Kali Linux. Basically it's just a flavor of Linux with more features and its used buy hackers because it has many more add on features which a hacker requires which are pre-installed on Kali. So the choice is your u can practice commands on both Kali Linux and Ubuntu I think that using Ubuntu is better. It's better to use Ubuntu or Debian to learn the basics, and you can always look for a tool and download it. Personally, I'm Using Ubuntu(as a first step on switching to Linux) and I've download tools like airecrack-ng, Armitage... :) just keep in mind that ubuntu does some stuff very differently from most other linux distributions. hello i have a question there is any difference between ubuntu and kali linux in commande line terminal ? @sa: yes and no bash will be bash most applications will work pretty much the same way in Ubuntu as in Kali but as far as configuration of the distribution goes, there are something that ubuntu does in it's own special way. Now, if you just use ubuntu as a tool, a working environment, you might never come across one of those things. If you're looking to learn as much as you can about linux, I'd go for Kali. It depends if you are going to use it for daily uses and nice desktop environment then go with Ubuntu, but if you want an OS with pre-installed penetration tools then I guess Kali will be good. Kali is now the defacto standard for pen testing it comes bundled with a lot of utilities that Ubuntu doesn't have, install kali to have a feel of the best tools out there, but you can also install the utilities on the kali distro on your ubuntu box as well What about installing Ubuntu as a primary system & installing Kali on Virtual Box on Ubuntu, so you can enjoy both of them ? kali for sure use both and see difference I agree with what many others have said - Ubuntu is a great system to learn Linux, particularly because of the community Canonical has built and its beginner-friendly culture. You won't ever get put down for being a n00b in the Ubuntu forums. Ubuntu is a good general purpose desktop environment (although since Canonical started using the Unity interface I like to use Linux Mint - call me old fashioned). Kali is a specialized distro with a set of tools for a very specific purpose. It was never intended as a general purpose system, but is built with the Penetration Tester in mind. My recommendation: Use an Ubuntu or Linux Mint desktop. Install Virtualbox on it and create a Kali virtual machine to learn pen testing tools. Kali's tools almost all have to run as root, so it doesn't have the "no root account" security approach of Debian or Ubuntu. Use your Kali VM as a pen testing sandbox. If you mess up you'll have your template to simply roll out another VM. I here that Lunix kali is normally used by hackers but here they taught us to install Lunix Ubantu . What should I do now ? Is Ubantu work as same as Kali ? Regards Anshuman Both via Virtual environment. Learn to use Ubuntu. Learn to hack your Ubuntu using Kali. NOTE: The tools supplied with Kali are not intuitive. Command Line Interface (CLI) experience and a ton of research is required (YouTube makes it easier). NOTE2: Kali has all the tools you need to get arrested. DO NOT ATTACK RANDOM IPs. There are YouTube videos of kids out there who test/attack random IPs. Many of them don't realize they are attacking foreign countries which could get them in serious trouble, possibly arrested or even killed (I'm not kidding). IMO: the term Attack is synonymous with Scan. Your target could treat a scan as an attack. I believe it's important to make a NOTE3; Use Kali from a virtual system and never hack or attack from your host. Retaliation could be catastrophic. I have used both of the Operating Systems but to the question I would recommend to go to Kali because it is majorly built for Hacking & Penetration Testing purposes & it is toughened beyond ages,Whereas Ubuntu is simply the replacement of your Windows Operating System.You would have to separately install all the tools which are pre-loaded in Kali. ok Ubuntu is the "Windows" of the linux community, and is more of a crutch for the handicapped than a truly functional distro. Firstly, if "for beginners" speaks to you, then without trying to sound mean, hurt your feelings, or discourage you from pursuing your dreams as a hacker....you have no business using kali for anything other than your base operating system(ie without the security oriented tools). It is actually quite a good version of debian for every-day use. I recommend for beginners to take a deep breath and put in the effort to build debian/kali/ubuntu from one of the super-minimal install iso that are available, doing the googling to know what packages to install in base system and how to configure them, kernel configuration and compiling(cuz for hacking you will most likely need a custom kernel), partition layout, encryption schemes, etc. If you are asking this question, "kali or ubuntu," perhaps you should take the next few months becoming intimatly familiar with linux and the command-line....like do everything from updates, installing software, and copying files, to downloading from the internet and even watching youtube from the command-line. If this idea scares you, well perhaps you should take the "blue" pill. If you are familiar with the command line and switching out desktop environments(ie gnome, KDE, XFCE, etc) is somthing that is not outside your reach, then ubuntu and kali are really not that different, kali is reasonably hardened(for a binary distro) and ubuntu has a larger developer base, meaning perhaps(theoretically) faster updates and better drivers......theoretically. There are also SolydXK, Linux-Lite, Linux Mint, and numerous others "for beginners." As I said though building your own from only a minimal base system is the best way to learn many of the necessary skills for hacking. If you are alitte more adventurous then I recommend building Gentoo using SystemRescueCD +1 For Kali here. Ubuntu and Kali are both debian based.. Kali is aimed for digital forensics hence its pre-installed with a bunch of forensic tools. Ubuntu isn't aimed at digital forensics so its not pre-installed with a bunch of tools. Keep in mind since they are both debian based any tool for kali should be able to install on ubuntu. In my opinion Kali is overrated there is a million tools pre-installed out of which you would probably only use 5. For me I use Ubuntu and have the necessary tools i need .. example.. wireshark. Probably if you want to go hardcore use Arch linux Both are kinda like the same because Ubuntu and Kali linux are Debian derivatives but in Kali linux, you get more tools for penetration testing, forensics, and so on. No matter what distribution you use, Kali or Ubuntu, you get the same results. However it's a good idea to use what they teach here (Ubuntu) if you don't know your way around linux. It depends on what you are seeking. Ubuntu is a desktop distro, more for daily use. Kali is oriented toward penetration testing, hacking if you will. You can use Ubuntu and install all of the tools included in Kali, but why not just orient towards your specific usage. Go for Kali Linux.. With Kali Linux, hacking becomes much easier since you have all the tools (more than 300 pre-installed tools) you are probably ever gonna need. @fcmam5... u re good. I like Kali linux when I need to get it up and running in a pinch, but most of the time, I usually build out a minimal install of CentOS and build all the tools I need on that. I find it that most of the time, I am only using a few tools and not everything that is compiled with Kali. I don't think it is a matter of which distro, but more a matter of first learning Linux if you come from Windows. Using a distro with many pre-installed & preconfigured settings makes things too easy so one may not really learn the basic. The basics would be setting up a vanilla install from scratch and get it to do everything that you need such as network access. surfing, printing etc. etc. In the process of doing so a lot will be learned about the basics of Linux. Very enlightening.Thank you all. Like other people in this thread already mentioned. You can use Ubuntu/Mint/Arch etc as your main OS. Boot Kali from USB if you are going to pentest/hack.Or use virtualbox. Sure you can use Kali as your main OS but why would you? It's not built for that purpose ( imho). Right can only agree with that. Depending on what you are doing use ubuntu for general purpose and for pentesting use kali since there are a lot of usefull tools already within. @Ahmad.... good suggestion u dropped here. Sometimes in Ubuntu you don't need to learn how to use the terminal. I guess it's better to use kali linux instead since you will be using terminal the most. have you guys tried Backbox linux, .. i recommend it , if you are a New Linux user and for Network Admins.. it accepts most apps and its loaded with pen testing apps too.. I started with Ubuntu then tried out loads of other Distros for a while to settle on Mint with KDE interface for my daily use. Kali is loaded on the Laptop to play and learn. Going to try Cyborg Hawk OS on it soon. Would love to try for an Arch System eventually. Arch or Black Arch. i started out on ubuntu, learned the ropes, and got later on Kali installed on flash for my other netbook. then fiddled around a bit on it, and saw the similarities. like said above, ubuntu is more for daily use and Kali for a infosec job. the principles of use and structure is almost the same. interface changes, desktop environments etc looks different. i would suggest learn linux with ubuntu first. most people want to start hacking, but don't have the basics covered. move up once you are comfortable doing so, and if basic troubleshooting in linux is not second nature. otherwise you will have this awesome distro for hacking, but can't fully use it's potential cause you don't understand the basics. let's say you get comfortable with ubuntu, and don't like the way Kali looks, feel etc, it is possible to simply add the repositories to your ubuntu install, and still access to tools you most use. that's the thing i love of linux. 100ways to get around a problem. my 2c I Personally Believe that the only way to learn is to actually pull up your sleeves and learn. I personally prefer Kali, but from a learning aspect, I would advise that you pick a Distro and learn it. Everyone has their own opinion about which distro. Most distros do the same thing, it is just how it is presented. Once you start "playing" with it you can make your own choice. Dears All I'm a new learner and after reading all the materials I'm still in a fix to understand which distro is suitable. However it seems to me: UBUNTU is good if you want to learn in detail. KALI is useful if you have some knowledge on linux. Please tell me am I right or wrong? Regards:Nasir Noor Muhammad What about just using katoolin? Is everyone suggesting (the one's that suggested) then a NOOB, install the user friendly version of Linux if they don't want to build from scratch, and use if from command line? Just asking, everyone provided good insight on this subject. Hope you all have a blessed and successful new year! ubuntu, in kali tools are already installed, if you do not know or install the tool you will use, how you want to be a hacker? If you are just starting to study cybersecurity, start with ubuntu, install software by hand and after a training period you can switch to a specific distro. If you have the possibility I suggest you to install both OSes in a virtualized environment (virtualbox, vmware or something else) to see differences and choose the one who meet your preferences and skills. fabos Kali Linux has some nice tools. Kali is majorly used for Hacking & Penetration Testing so yeah use Kali Linux :) As I've stated before, Kali is arguably the best distro for learning hacking and pen testing. After you learn the tools and build a toolset from them, if you have another distro you prefer, you can install your own tool set on that distro which will be perfect for you. But Kali is an ideal place to start the learning process. Ubuntu is just the OS. Kali is also. Go for Kali, it will save you time for downloading tools. well the course im taking is with kali but doesnt say anything about ubuntu can anyone recommend me a page to use hacking tools with ubuntu?? ,,,,thanksss In theory any tool which is installed on Kali can also be installed on Ubuntu. The difference is that Kali comes with the programs preinstalled which saves you a lot of time and effort. However, if you want to work with Ubuntu, below is a link to a list of the tools which are installed on Kali. You can manually install the ones you want on Ubuntu. https://tools.kali.org/tools-listing I think Kali is better But if you're try something diffent try cyborg-hawk-linux ![null](http://google.com) What are the most basic things you have to know to start hacking? ? To start hacking, you need to be comfortable with three areas of basic systems administration: Linux Windows Networking There are courses to get you up to speed on all three right here on Cybrary. It will also be helpful to have some hands-on experience with all three areas. That you can get on the job or in your own lab. It helps to have a couple of older PCs you can install Linux and Windows on. Thanks coypu76. What are the names of the courses that can be helpful? If you will take these three courses you'll be well prepared to engage with the hacking courses: CompTIA A+ CompTIA Linux+ CompTIA Network+ If you go a little further you can actually take the certifications for these three courses and get a full time job doing technical support while you increase your skills. Just the A+ certification will open the door to a desktop support position or helpdesk job. There are a lot of free materials for Linux - I used these when I began, but my experience with beginning with Linux is over 10 years ago: RUTE https://www0.sun.ac.za/hpc/images/d/d5/Rute.pdf Intro to Linux by Machtelt Garrels http://tille.garrels.be/training/tldp/ The Linux Documentation Project http://tldp.org/ I started with Linux back in about 2005, and I found the Ubuntu community forums very helpful. Earlier attempts to get help on the forums from various distributions were met with disparaging remarks, being caled a N00b and such, but the Ubuntu community was specifically n00b-friendly and had moderators that enforced the community vibe. That was very helpful. Good luck and have fun with your journey! Thank you very much coypu76 I really appreciate your help. I will make use of as much material I can get my hands on. Ok You can use Kali. But you may know that kali comes with full security tools but mot all. If you want to have all tools, you can better use Ubuntu and install all the Kali tools with single command. i dont think that there is to much difference between kali and ubuntu. Both Kali and Ubuntu are based on Debian, so their core designs are very similar. However, there are a lot of differences when it comes to usage. Ubuntu has made a lot of changes in order to achieve their particular idea of usability (although they are dropping the Unity desktop in order to go back to Gnome next year). Kali's main focus is on having lots of security tools already installed. You can do the same thing on Ubuntu, but Kali does the work for you. hi
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