Now let's jump into the search section. So this is something obviously that a lot of people in cyber security and an I t in general are always often interested in and pursuing, which I find fascinating and wonderful. You know, that above and beyond
the work that they're doing day to day, they're also pursuing certifications. So, Shane, I'm going to start with you on this piece and talking specifically about obviously certifications for a cyber security engineer. But then, of course, Mark, please feel free to jump in and add anything you would like to say.
Yeah, thanks, Gina. So this is ah, uh,
simple chart that is distributed by E. C Council to help highlight their C C so certification. But it's a great breakdown of how some of the domains overlapped for some of the top
information security management certifications.
We should probably star C I S S P. That's still cut. Still kind of a gold standard for information security management certifications. And it's one that
that we we push people too strong to obtain. You know, throughout the life of the cyber security engineer path, there's plenty of training for both C i s S P and C A s p
through that specific career path. But,
uh, the certified see so certification is a newer one by you. See, counsel,
and it's getting a lot of traction, not just because of the name, but also if you look at the
domain five for that certification. Is is ah, pretty significant domain for that, that, sir, because it's goes into strategic finance, bender management, strategic planning, finance and vendor management, which a lot of other certifications don't necessarily cover.
That's one of a kind of one of the highlights for certified See So certification
cast is a certification through Calm Tia, which through cyber we offer voucher discounts through
all comfy a certification. So that's a decent want to look into a swell. A lot of people tag it as a little more technical former management certification, but it's still classifies. Information, Security, management certification. It is calm. Tia's one of their
I think it's there. Ah, top tier certification if you're going through a
certification path through through calm. Tia
Sisa is another.
Uh, it's ah, Sokka certification. It's more of information security auditor, But if you're looking to get into that path, It's a decent certification as well.
Schism is another ah, eye sockets certification. That's their certified information security manager. And then G s L C is, ah, leadership certification through Sands, which sands education certifications air
phenomenal, with the amount with the level of training and instructors they have is just extremely expensive. So we simply don't recommend them over
a lot of the other certifications. But it's definitely something to highlight here as well.
Great. Thank you very much.
Very good. So, Mark, did you want to say anything on this?
No, I mean, I think I think Shane hit the high level search that
that we see here. But if you try to experience, you know, even all of the low level sorts lead you into understanding the backbone of a lot of these certifications. So I don't think the work that you do now is to waste these air Still that these air kind of endgame search, But everything that you're learning will build you up to be able to take Wendy's.
Very good. Thank you.
Okay. So let's see if I can move forward in my slide presentation here. Very good.
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That's all it took. Okay,
so let's talk now A little bit. You know what? Let me jump back. Yeah. I wanted to make sure I didn't miss hard skills. I have it on my list here. So hard skills for cyber engineers know include, but of course are not limited to
security tools. Expertise. You may not be day today using these tools anymore. Especially if you're in the management position, right. You may be looking to to obtain, um,
so that's something to think about. Security analysis. You have to obviously know how to do that. Project management
across the board. Really? In any position that you're going to be jumping into project management is going to be important. Obviously, the stakes get a little higher. The higher up in your career you go are the positions that you gain. Rather
incident. Response is gonna be important. I'll skip over a couple of here because I do actually want Shane to jump in and talking a little talk a little bit about this. Excuse me.
Scripting is gonna be important again. Knowledge of all of this is gonna be critical, especially if you're leading teams of people who are doing this type of work and they come to you with questions. And then the last piece that we have on here is, of course, postmortem deep forensics. So, Shane, if you could chat a little bit about the hard skills that are listed here or others that you think would be important for a cyber security engineer manager
Yeah, for sure. Thanks, Gina. And I mean being the cyber security manager. And if you're in charge of
managing a full team or managing a full department, it's goingto have at least light experience in in all aspects of cybersecurity. So you know a little bit about you know, what you're doing for managing. Specific teams are managing specific skill sets or
security tools. You know, one of the ones. The highlight here is his project management. Again,
you're in that that leadership role and managing teams of managing projects. That's a pretty important one,
and one to also consider to add to this list is risk Management is, ah, very important skill set toe have for cyber security. Engineer, cyber security manager. Essentially, you're
from Ah ah, higher level cyber security position. That's one of the main things you're tasked with is managing risk for your specific company of your specific team on and apply that that risk management aspect across, you know, all levels of cybersecurity and all levels. The actual business.
Yeah, fantastic, obviously, risk management is that you know something out in the marketplace tremendously. These days, the people are talking about studying for interested in and trying to apply skills. And so great. I'm glad you mentioned that one as well, Shane. So thank you.
Yeah, it's not just not just having again an overview, light overview and information with all these specific areas and then risk management as well. It's also your typically tasked with the role of translating, translating especially risk to the actual business itself. So
you're working with technical people that are on your team and managing all aspects of them.
But then you're also in charge of translating that tech talk. Or how does that translate into risk management and making known that that information is important to the actual business and why it's important to them and what they need to be concerned with
with overall risk. But, you know, cyber security itself,
certainly so what I'm kind of here. And when you're saying that is being able obviously to talk the tech, talk about risk management and being aware of it from a variety of standpoints. But then also, I think you used the word translate. Being able to translate that to other departments and other management groups and maybe the sea level,
the C suite, right? Sea level people in an organization and talking to them about why risk is important. Is that accurate? Correct. Correct. Yeah. Great. Good. Very nice.