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Let's talk now a little bit about experience, so the experience that you may have when you step into the role of cyber security engineer and again specifically, as a cyber security engineer manager, you may have done development of security practices at practices and standards. You may have actually made recommendations to management
regarding security enhancements and improvement. You may have monitored systems right
to identify a regular behavior. You have to kind of understand that piece in order to play in this role, and you may be leading breach investigations. And obviously you can see the other information that's here as we're talking. Everyone on the line, of course, can read what we have written. But Mark, I'm gonna ask for your feedback on this piece.
How about some of the experience that you've seen
in the work that you do of cyber security engineer Er's either specifically just someone operating in a technical space? Or in this more directed space that we're talking about today as a manager? Yeah, Gina. So first of all, thanks everybody for joining. And if it's anybody that that's on slack country, you talk to Shane and plenty of time, So you know. Welcome to this as well.
If it's your first time, you know, we appreciate you being here, but with cyber security engineer, when you look at it, it's definitely not an entry level position. I would say you're looking at the 5 to 10 year range for experience
when you're leading a team, even a cyber security engineer when you're leading a team, this could be your course position,
which will be your first time leading something like this when you kind of look at leading instant response efforts, leading brief investigations or
leading a vulnerability analysis or red team, whatever your your path made kind of fall under a security engineer. And I may include all of that, which is why we kind of have that the Tier four. Just because learning how to defend with a stock analyst for how to be offensive and find things in the pen test, or even just understanding
network engineering, all of these skills tie into
what a cyber security engineer is going to do. So in order to get that kind of experience, most likely, you're not going to do it right out of
college, right out of commission cyber So you know,
it's really going to be in that five year range. I would even say, sometimes closer to the 7 to 10 depending on
but the position in salary and what you're responsible for. But But within that, you know,
the skills that we're gonna kind of continue to discuss a little bit further. And the certifications are also ones that
require a certain level of experience in order to even apply to take some of the Certs, which will go over here in a minute.
Yeah, Perfect. Thank you. Thank you very much, Mark. Good. So again, take a look at this list as we're talking
and be thinking about the experience that you've had in the past if you're interested in moving into this realm and how you might apply it as you're looking for work down the road.
So now let's move into the education piece. Some information to think about, you know, cyber degrees and programs that you may want to think about
a bachelor of science and that work in security
administration. Bachelor of science and information in computer science, about your science and cybersecurity. A master of science in computer engineering or cyber security. There are lots of degrees nowadays. Obviously you guys know in this realm that our master's levels programs And, of course, we put in some information here about the Cyber Security Engineer program. It's library.
So these are things that you could be thinking about doing some additional information that I wanted to share with you today on this piece. And then we'll have Shane kind of pipe in on this
section as well. But pursuing a master's degree, you know, maybe something that you want to think about, especially if you're getting into
ah, management level role in the master's degrees can be very helpful in opening up doors for you and giving you more opportunities in this space.
And another thing to think about that I loved when I was researching this information and reading about this. And I spend, as you guys probably know, some time looking at all of these types of career paths and how people can be
developing their skill set to obviously go down the road of these career paths and one of the things that you may want to be thinking about as you're developing yourself in your studies. But also in your outside pursuits right? Is consider joining
networking organizations,
groups and organizations that are out there that can actually help you develop other skills, you know, above and beyond what you're get getting from the training here. A tsai berry. So complement the work that you're doing a sigh berry and the other work that you may be doing in your current job by joining networking organizations.
So, Shane, I know that you were part of a networking organization where you live in the U. S.
So I wanted to know if you could speak to that point and anything else that you wanted to share about. Education.
Yeah, for sure. Thanks. Thanks, Gina. So, uh, based out of the Las Vegas area, we formed
an organization called Southern Nevada Cyber Security Alliance, which is essentially the alliance that
collaborates with all the local cybersecurity chapters in the area. So I s C squared. I s to say
infer guard, uh, witty a i t p et cetera. So it's a lot of collaboration amongst local cybersecurity and I t professionals across the board. So anything from
students all the way up to see io. So it's It's great for networking purposes like you mentioned. And
we We formed SNC a own our own a group of us a few years ago. But all those other chapters already exists in the existing on a national and A and a global level. So wherever you're based out of, I mean feel free to take a look and see what network off networking opportunities might be available through those
various chapters again. You know I s C squared.
You see, Counsel, I have to say they're all gonna have some type of
local networking opportunities and groups to collaborate with and talking in regards to the
Cyber Security Engineer program and talking about more that leadership role. It's a good idea to get involved with one of these networking groups and meet various people and see how you can
expanding, growing your skills. But one of the good things that might be ableto you might be able to look into a CZ well is maybe eventually forming a aboard position on one of those various chapters toe further develop leadership skills.
Is Gina mentioned previously? Obviously, a
degree of some sort is ideal, but we understand that it's sometimes challenging and people might not have the time and funding. Thio
obtained a specific degree. Which is why we provide this specific career path at Cyberia, where it's more, you know, on demand video based training, which is a little bit more
flexible and a little bit more,
uh, easy on the pocketbook, for sure.
Yeah, definitely. Thank you, Shane. Great information. Yeah, we certainly understand the limitations that people face around the world, and cyber was started to fill that need for many people around the globe. So great.
Let's move on, JI. And if I wanted my pen real quick these, You know, there's lots of conversation that kind of goes here on the right side, too.
But you just think because if you do one of these degrees So I did my master's in computer science.
But all of those skills, you know, they really do prepare you for cyber security, security engineering. At a minimum, it really kind of
anything that you do in school's gonna help carry over. It's just if you're pursuing the master's degree,
it's coming to play for me. When you kind of move to that management level, it can be used as that separator if you have
a lot of the skills, but
just be prepared is it's, you know, it's the best thing was on a Tuesday teaches you study skills. You know, that's one of things that you join Insider Pro. You have?
a direct path to Shane and I, and we can help you sit in that stuff up. A swell
yeah, also is part of the sergeant. I apologize is also part of the insider pro program. Something that helps out from, ah leadership standpoint is we have an assistant mentor program, which allows students to help, you know, coach and mentor other students throughout the life of their program, which that, on their resume shows
your initiative and leadership skills on group management skills that are helping,
uh, you further
further make it shine is, ah, actual leader for a specific position like we're talking about with the cyber security engineer path.
And we have the toastmaster thing that we're going to start building to to work on your presentation skills.
Lovely. Yeah, Awesome. Great stuff.
Good. Thank you, guys.
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