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    I am new to the Cybrary forum and I am just a little confused with my career path. I have an Associates Degree in Computer Networking Systems from ITT Technical Institute and I am trying to become a Network Engineer.I have no certifications and I do not know where to start. Some say I should start with Cisco,but some also say I should start with Network + what is your honest opinion



    I don’t know how far along you are with ITT Tech but I would seriously consider a different school!! I know here in Maryland they have been completely shut down..



    We look for Network+ for all of our incoming people. If you understand networking, you can eventually learn Cisco and CCNA hands on type activity. Server+ and other similar content is much cheaper to come by if you are paying to get up to speed. Once in the door with a company, vendor specific training can be cheaper or more readily available.

    If you have a CCNA but no other experience, I would be scared to use you on Cisco projects because you don’t have enough knowledge of everything else. Once you get into a firm and have hands-on access to the technology, it will be easier to pass the CCNA (which is a harder but more product specific type test).

    I’d suggest get Network+ and start as a small network consulting firm/MSP’s Help Desk. You’ll be loved and get access to lots of free training (save money).



    I have completed my Associates Degree in Networking Systems



    No offense but as harris3563 pointed out, all programs are different. Certification helps make sure you know what you think you know. When I interview, it amazes me that many graduates can’t tell me basic things like

    What is your process for troubleshooting?
    What is the importance of DNS in a Windows network?
    What are some commonly used DHCP scope options?
    Name me 10 of the standard ports used in networks?
    What why would you want a layer 3 switch?
    What are common events in a windows System log?
    How would you diagnose a PC that can’t connect to the Internet?

    Even still, Network+ is just a beginning.



    I am also newish to the forum. I have been contemplating the CCNA for years, and I am finally a few weeks out from CCENT. The research I have done, is that the CCENT and the Network+ are fairly similar. Get the Network+ first if you are super green to networking. If you have some basic knowledge, skip the N+ and get the CCENT, then you can get your CCNA certs as you see fit.



    I’ve not done the Network+, but have done the CCNA (twice) along with the CompTIA A+ and a number of Microsoft cert exams. It is my understanding that the Net+ has some good content, and is vendor neutral. This may be a good place to start if you don’t have a strong understanding of networking. Of all of the cert exams I’ve taken, the Cisco exams are by far the most difficult. Hope this helps in your decision, and good luck in future endeavors!


    Paul Rouk

    The Cisco CCNA can be earned either through taking one big test, or by taking two separate tests which each cover about half as much material. Unless you are already working with Cisco equipment in your job, most people recommend taking the two separate tests since they are more suitable to someone who is new to Cisco technology.



    From experience in the field, Network+ will be more preferable, with the certification you will be useful in any IT company independent of wheather they are using Cisco products or not but with CCNA you are only useful for companies that use flat Cisco equipment in their rack.Even when they are using flat Cisco product, with CCNA you can only work with the basic configuration and not advanced technologies like EIGRP Named Mode, BGP, MPLS etc. So think of Network+ then Security+ before vendor specific certification.



    As someone with a Network+, and Security+, also my JNCIA….

    I’d say go for the CCNA. Network+ isn’t vendor specific. However, it will essentially be a rehash of your degree.

    I was fortunate and my first job out of school was at a larger corporate NOC. They weren’t specifically Cisco..but there was an expectation that everyone in networking should have at least a CCNA. The Network+ is seen as easier by many(and it probably is…still not a CCNA). So it isn’t going to hold as much weight as a most companies. Some understand the value of vendor neutral, but most honestly look at the CCNA as a “beginner networking cert”.

    In summary CCNA will get you a job in the field faster(and probably better pay), then a Network+

    Had both engineers and HR personal compare Network+ and CCNA, Here’s the general consensus(at least from my peers)

    Network+(High School)
    CCNP(B.A Degree)

    At least that’s with my peers. But as always every company is different. But for sure CCNA is more marketable.

    Network+=Help Desk position. CCNA=Entry Network engineer. Well that’s my opinion anyway



    I got my first IT job as an IT technician and have been in that role for 4 yrs. I am looking to get more into the network side of IT. I do more level 2 helpdesk stuff now and was wondering if getting the network + would help me prepare for the CCNA or if I should go straight to CCNA? I do system admin kind of work but have never configured a router. My company does use Cisco equipment.



    Well 1st id say remember than CCNA isnt the base Cisco qualification.

    CCENT (ICND1 exam) is a qualification in its own right. Id go for that, plus you are then 50% there to a CCNA R&S.



    Personally speaking I think Smeek got it bang on. I am working in networking at the moment and have worked in IT for more than 25 years. I have experience of someone that went on a CCNA course without learning the foundations of networking and although he passed the exam he has not got a clue on how to troubleshoot when things start to go wrong.
    Network+ will give you a solid foundation on whoch to build your skills up. I have seen far too many people wanting to run before they can even walk.

    Good luck with the career though, I wish you all the best

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 4 months ago by  ttony111.


    I agree with a lot of the post saying that a good foundation is essential. In my personal opinion I wouldn’t go for Network+. I’m not sure how serious companies take that qualitification since you can most likely just study an answer bank and pass it.
    Go for the CCNA, but take the two individual tests that comprise it. ICND1 and 2. take the time to read up and learn how the routing actually works. some people have the certifications and still can’t troubleshoot their way out of a wet paperbag. try to grab a copy of packet tracer or GNS3 and just starting building networks in your free time.



    Someone help me – Can CISCO switches be used to block access to our network? Must a small sized firm use a NAC?



    I am about to graduate with BSc on CE.
    I liked to deal with Networking rather than Architecture or Programming.
    When I start the CCNA I felt that there is something missing. Can N+ help me to be families with CCNA & CCNP?


    Paul Rouk

    @echezona — there are very few security features which “must” be implemented, including NAC. Security is a compromise between what you think you need and what you think you can afford. I’ve worked with larger companies which haven’t implemented NAC yet. This wasn’t because they thought it wasn’t a good idea, instead it was simply a matter of budget dollars and staff resources being needed on other projects with higher priorities.



    Thanks @paul Rouk, there seems to be no end to security tools. The worst is that the vendors who produce these tools do not upgrade solutions to address emerging threats rather they build a completely new one. Is there an end to the procurement?



    I have a session to attend tomorrow on network security design, please what are the key issues that must be addressed in such a design. Thank you




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